Leviathan-Related Hypothesis - Need help to prove or disprove!

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Leviathan-Related Hypothesis - Need help to prove or disprove!

Post by Rankincountry on Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:38 pm

A week or two back I played through Leviathan for the second time. Now, I think that I've noticed something of significance, but I may be wrong. But it's going to take someone with more skills at analysing videos than me to prove or disprove it. If I'm being honest, I think this is a long shot, but here goes.

I'm going to start at the end. Here's the Destroy ending, showing the red wave of energy from the Crucible propagating through the mass relays. It's well-known that in the "galaxy map" sequence shown here, the wave actually appears to originate from the Apien Crest rather than the Local Cluster - in fact, I don't think we see the beam go anywhere near Sol. Sloppy mistake, or significant? Who knows.

Next I'm going to jump to Shepard's confrontation with Leviathan. To be precise, the point where Leviathan says, "You cannot conceive of a galaxy that bends to your will." At the same moment, a diagram resembling a galaxy map with propagating lines connecting points on it appears over Shepard's head.

Now, my hypothesis is this: that the propagating lines on Leviathan's map resemble the pattern followed by the Crucible energy wave in the ME3 ending sequences. Why might this make any sort of sense? Well, we know that fake Garneau looks away furtively when Shepard asks about the Crucible. So - this might fit the idea that the Crucible is not a Reaper trap, but a Leviathan trap.

Here's a very crude analysis that I've done. It includes some educated guesses as to which systems the Crucible wave passes through. These might well be wrong so please do correct me. It's as far as I can get and I'd love for someone to do a proper job. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. If I'm right, this has all sorts of implications. :*tinfoil*: Gasp




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Post by DoomsdayDevice on Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:53 am

No, I don't think these two patterns are in any way similar.

That said, you could still be on to something.

I think we're simply looking at a different set of relays.

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Post by Rankincountry on Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:23 am

DoomsdayDevice wrote:No, I don't think these two patterns are in any way similar.

That said, you could still be on to something.

I think we're simply looking at a different set of relays.

I think you're probably right - this is why I wanted someone else to have a look though. It's an appealing idea so I think there was some confirmation bias at work in my head hehe.

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Post by DSharrah on Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:24 am

Don't think that they are similar enough that you can draw any conclusions...but is still interesting concept to mull over. Perhaps the galactic map that the Levi shows you has some other significance...perhaps those are the planets that the Leviathans still have a prescence?

Otherwise I do agree that the Crucible may indeed be a Leviathan construct rather than a Reaper construct - but that doesn't mean that there isn't some form of manipulation from the Reaper's. Perhaps, the Leviathans have more to do with the splinter group that wants to control the Reapers...

Whatever Current Cycle is adds what is necessary to destroy?

Leviathan influenced group adds what is necessary to control? (destined to fail, b/c Reaper's understand the nature of control all to well)

Reapers influenced group adds what is necessary to synthesize?

So in essence, a device that is a "trap" of both the Reapers and the Leviathans...but also the one thing that still provides hope - given the avatar can see through the BS and pick destroy.

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