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Post by Hrothdane Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:53 pm

I'm interested in this conspiracy thing.

Actually, has anyone checked that old conspiracy nut webpage they started back with Leviathan to promote it?
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Post by Ghost Of Kesak11 Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:53 pm

Also I hope they do a good job since it is priced at $15.
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Post by Charlie Sheen Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:42 pm

Me: Honestly, the DLC sounds completely boring. Is this going to be more than just Citadel conspiracies and a casino party?

JessicaMerizan: What is it that interests you? Boring is subjective and we can't target or try to appeal to everyone.

Me: I wanted to see something more impacting to the story,IT or not.For the last DLC,decorating my apartmnet doesn't interest me

JessicaMerizan: well this will not affect the end of the game, it has impact in terms of character interactions and new areas to explore.
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Post by boeloe Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:51 pm

Hrothdane wrote:I'm interested in this conspiracy thing.

Actually, has anyone checked that old conspiracy nut webpage they started back with Leviathan to promote it?


What website?
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Post by DSharrah Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:18 am

I am trying to reserve judgement...but I keeping tilting b/w IWANNAITNOW and Realllllly!?!?!?! That's how you are going to end the trilogy - w/what may be nothing consequential to the story?!?!?!?!
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Post by magnetite Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:03 am

Efrath wrote:Oh man, I really want the DLC now, just so I can find o-

Damn you EA and Bioware for teasing us and never letting us know if our theories are true or not just so we can keep searching trough your DLCs for clues!

That's what makes it a theory. Thing is though there's probably so many theories about this game it would be hard to prove every single one. Besides, I think my video I made pretty much proves the ending is an indoctrination attempt. You don't need to have Shepard wake up in the rubble for it to be true. Or Bioware's official confirmation. Or to be something similar to this. It would be so obvious that the theory was true. Bioware doesn't do that sort of thing. Back in March of last year, the main goal of IT was to kind of figure out what the ending was.
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Post by Efrath Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:00 am

magnetite wrote:
Efrath wrote:Oh man, I really want the DLC now, just so I can find o-

Damn you EA and Bioware for teasing us and never letting us know if our theories are true or not just so we can keep searching trough your DLCs for clues!

That's what makes it a theory. Thing is though there's probably so many theories about this game it would be hard to prove every single one. Besides, I think my video I made pretty much proves the ending is an indoctrination attempt. You don't need to have Shepard wake up in the rubble for it to be true. Or Bioware's official confirmation. Or to be something similar to this. It would be so obvious that the theory was true. Bioware doesn't do that sort of thing. Back in March of last year, the main goal of IT was to kind of figure out what the ending was.

Oh, I believe it's an Indoctrination attempt too, seems there's just too many "coincidences" for it to not be true I think, but it seems that even now they aren't going to confirm it, at least if we're to believe Twitter and them saying it's not Post-Breath. I suppose it's no must to give us an answer, but it'd be nice to see what happens after.

Guess we might have to wait for Mass Effect 4 to see what happens after however.
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Post by magnetite Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:22 am

Efrath wrote:
Oh, I believe it's an Indoctrination attempt too, seems there's just too many "coincidences" for it to not be true I think, but it seems that even now they aren't going to confirm it, at least if we're to believe Twitter and them saying it's not Post-Breath. I suppose it's no must to give us an answer, but it'd be nice to see what happens after.

Guess we might have to wait for Mass Effect 4 to see what happens after however.

If they're saving that for Mass Effect 4, it may be similar to this. The conclusion to what happened to you was post-poned until the next game. The scene is very similar. Bioware may do something like this with Mass Effect 4.

I know, people will have to wait until 2015 to find out, but it won't be so bad.

Another thing some people around here have discussed is that the next game trilogy if they're making another trilogy, is that Mass Effect 4,5,6 will be the Reaper war. Defeating the Reapers is the whole point of the series, so they're planning to stretch it out a bit.
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Post by Baranus33 Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:53 am

Humakt83 wrote:The chat is going on crazy.

Anyway, looks like there is EDI in Reckoning DLC:

Mass Effect 3: Citadel Announced - Page 2 Reckoning1

I think that is the "Alliance Infiltration Unit" class that is coming which makes less sense than having EDI
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Post by boeloe Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:48 am

boeloe wrote:
Hrothdane wrote:I'm interested in this conspiracy thing.

Actually, has anyone checked that old conspiracy nut webpage they started back with Leviathan to promote it?


What website?

You mean this one?

http://conspiracyaccountabilityleague.blogspot.ca/
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Post by Hrothdane Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:13 am

boeloe wrote:
boeloe wrote:
Hrothdane wrote:I'm interested in this conspiracy thing.

Actually, has anyone checked that old conspiracy nut webpage they started back with Leviathan to promote it?


What website?

You mean this one?

http://conspiracyaccountabilityleague.blogspot.ca/

Yes. Looks like it didn't get updated.
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Post by Andromidius Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:41 am

Cyberfrog wrote:Jessica Merizan says the scar is from Project Lazarus.
https://twitter.com/JessicaMerizan/status/304673435458617346


She also said the Normandy crashed on Mars.

Though she's right, it doesn't explain why its visible in that scene. And why its only visible on a Paragon/Default Shepard during the final sequence.

She's pretty much clueless.
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Post by BleedingUranium Fri Feb 22, 2013 6:27 am

Andromidius wrote:She also said the Normandy crashed on Mars.

She's never getting away from that.
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Post by Andromidius Fri Feb 22, 2013 6:32 am

BleedingUranium wrote:
Andromidius wrote:She also said the Normandy crashed on Mars.

She's never getting away from that.

And so it should be.
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Post by Terramine Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:43 am

Andromidius wrote:
BleedingUranium wrote:
Andromidius wrote:She also said the Normandy crashed on Mars.

She's never getting away from that.

And so it should be.
If I ever meet her, I will make it my lifetime goal to specifically point out what was so batshit insane about saying that, to her face, and then do the worm and leave 8)

Edit: How can you guys be fine with it just because of the Relationships? I mean come on, it will officially mean they killed the series you love so much. Furthermore, it would mean they really do suck balls at writing and thus ME4 is doomed.

I mean, R%R would make no sense DURING the war, even Bioware knows R&R takes place AFTER the work is finished. So ultimately, they've had to be really brain dead for them to fuck this up. But alas, the fact that R&R takes place after your work, and the fact that Bioware knows that, gives a glimmer of hope that they won't fuck it up.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:24 am

What's not to get about R & R during conflict. Militaries do it all the time. It's called shore leave. It's done to help rest the strained soldiers minds, because men and women under strain can snap, and nobody wants that.
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Post by Fur28 Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:42 am

Selim Bradley wrote:What's not to get about R & R during conflict. Militaries do it all the time. It's called shore leave. It's done to help rest the strained soldiers minds, because men and women under strain can snap, and nobody wants that.
we see that with Vega in the Citadel
and after the coup
They need it

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Post by Terramine Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:06 am

Selim Bradley wrote:What's not to get about R & R during conflict. Militaries do it all the time. It's called shore leave. It's done to help rest the strained soldiers minds, because men and women under strain can snap, and nobody wants that.
But there is no shore leave if the person is too important, and Shepard for example is the most important to the whole Galaxy... also Wrex is too important to his people, etc.

R&R is for the soldiers who are capable of resting because they are expendable, such a capacity some people lack.
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Post by RavenEyry Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:11 am

Time off from the war is fine, and we got plenty of that with things like the shooting contest with Garrus. Buying and furnishing an apartment and inviting all your friends away from the war for a party in it is ridiculous. What was the quote from James: "It seems so quiet and peaceful, bit it's not right"? Something like that.

Anyway despite my reservations it still looks good so I'm just gonna wait until it's out and let the content speak for itself, instead of changing opinion with every tweet that comes out as some people have been doing.
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Post by Terramine Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:17 am

RavenEyry wrote:Time off from the war is fine, and we got plenty of that with things like the shooting contest with Garrus. Buying and furnishing an apartment and inviting all your friends away from the war for a party in it is ridiculous. What was the quote from James: "It seems so quiet and peaceful, bit it's not right"? Something like that.

Anyway despite my reservations it still looks good so I'm just gonna wait until it's out and let the content speak for itself, instead of changing opinion with every tweet that comes out as some people have been doing.
Eh I didn't even hear about this until today, a few hours ago, so I haven't been changing my opinion every tweet. Also exactly, this is beyond R&R.... this is like Garrus my man lets go to that bar while Liara's busy taking care of my blue babies, etc. kinda ordeal if you catch my drift.

If the Reaper war is still going on then damn Liara is a horrible parent, bringing children up into a war like this? Might as well ask the Banshees to help breastfeed while you are at it lulz
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Post by RavenEyry Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:24 am

I wasn't blaming you particularly, it's just there were some people on the main thread posting every tweet one by one going "I'm happy! I'm sad... I'm happy! I'm sad..." and it was getting ridiculous.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:52 am

IronicParticle wrote:
Selim Bradley wrote:What's not to get about R & R during conflict. Militaries do it all the time. It's called shore leave. It's done to help rest the strained soldiers minds, because men and women under strain can snap, and nobody wants that.
But there is no shore leave if the person is too important, and Shepard for example is the most important to the whole Galaxy... also Wrex is too important to his people, etc.

R&R is for the soldiers who are capable of resting because they are expendable, such a capacity some people lack.
Except Shepard isn't a leader of the forces. The only time Shepards orders people not on the squad is the opening moments of Sword Fleet's engagement with the Reapers at The Battle for Earth. Shepard and the crew of the Normandyare more of a special-operations unit, who are sent on high-risk missions of extreme importance. Those people require more R&R than anyone.
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Post by RavenEyry Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:56 am

Selim Bradley wrote: Except Shepard isn't a leader of the forces. The only time Shepards orders people not on the squad is the opening moments of Sword Fleet's engagement with the Reapers at The Battle for Earth. Shepard and the crew of the Normandyare more of a special-operations unit, who are sent on high-risk missions of extreme importance. Those people require more R&R than anyone.
And they get several over the game that made more sense than this. Stop acting like Shep never had any time off before the DLC.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:57 am

RavenEyry wrote:
Selim Bradley wrote: Except Shepard isn't a leader of the forces. The only time Shepards orders people not on the squad is the opening moments of Sword Fleet's engagement with the Reapers at The Battle for Earth. Shepard and the crew of the Normandyare more of a special-operations unit, who are sent on high-risk missions of extreme importance. Those people require more R&R than anyone.
And they get several over the game that made more sense than this. Stop acting like Shep never had any time off before the DLC.
I'm not saying Shepard never did, but this particular time is after whatever this DLc does, so they need to unwind from that experience.
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Post by Eryri Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:00 am

RavenEyry wrote:
Selim Bradley wrote: Except Shepard isn't a leader of the forces. The only time Shepards orders people not on the squad is the opening moments of Sword Fleet's engagement with the Reapers at The Battle for Earth. Shepard and the crew of the Normandyare more of a special-operations unit, who are sent on high-risk missions of extreme importance. Those people require more R&R than anyone.
And they get several over the game that made more sense than this. Stop acting like Shep never had any time off before the DLC.

I would have to agree. While I understand that a real person in Shepard's position would need R&R, I'm not particularly interested in watching him have even more of it. For the same reason that I'm not interested in watching him fill out his tax returns or brush his teeth. It's not what I bought this game to do.
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