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Post by Master Blaster on Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:45 am

Basically BSN being literal and bashing IT.


And

Well might as well.

I know what is the point, yet i am not going to let people bash something that can still be valid and in a way this reminds those that are new about what it means to speculate since on the BSN ME3 side.....everyone that is against talks about the endings being anything more tries to hush it all up. Figure it's time to change that. Judge me all you want but i am doing what i think is right.

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Post by DoomsdayDevice on Sun Sep 13, 2015 10:12 pm

Yeah, good luck with that.

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Post by dorktainian on Tue Sep 15, 2015 4:49 pm

Master Blaster wrote:Basically BSN being literal and bashing IT.


And

Well might as well.

I know what is the point, yet i am not going to let people bash something that can still be valid and in a way this reminds those that are new about what it means to speculate since on the BSN ME3 side.....everyone that is against talks about the endings being anything more tries to hush it all up. Figure it's time to change that. Judge me all you want but i am doing what i think is right.

use basic words as it's all they understand.

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Post by Terramine on Wed Sep 16, 2015 7:46 pm

I think the reason I'm so Kung Ho about refuse is because Indoctrination in this case may be a fictional process of controlling one's limbic system literally... but it's clearly symbolic for the real life Indoctrination. You know, like telling your kids that gays are wrong and god exists?

And there is only one way out of Indoctrination in real life. Which is to Refuse it altogether. Be an Atheist, Rebel, Fuck Shit Up, Sex, Drugs, Rock N Roll, Fuck The System Bitch, etc.

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Post by Terramine on Wed Sep 16, 2015 7:50 pm

And you guys said Bioware has people with psychology degrees that were involved in the making of ME3? Well they would know exactly what I'm talking about.

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Post by Terramine on Wed Sep 16, 2015 10:12 pm

You guys think you're real funny don't you? I'm a fucking supergenius and often times I'm right about so much that the other person ends up spiraling straight down to hell all because they didn't listen to me. I'm going to crack faster than light and multiversal travel, I'm going to become a Master Scientist, I know how to create a bomb that could destroy the entire universe.

Do you really think I'm stupid? Because if so I'm sorry to inform you, but that's you, not me.

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Post by Rifneno on Wed Sep 16, 2015 11:26 pm

Terramine wrote:I'm going to crack

Sure you didn't already?

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Post by symbowles on Thu Sep 17, 2015 1:11 am

Terramine wrote:You guys think you're real funny don't you? I'm a fucking supergenius and often times I'm right about so much that the other person ends up spiraling straight down to hell all because they didn't listen to me. I'm going to crack faster than light and multiversal travel, I'm going to become a Master Scientist, I know how to create a bomb that could destroy the entire universe.

Do you really think I'm stupid? Because if so I'm sorry to inform you, but that's you, not me.

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Post by Guest on Thu Sep 17, 2015 1:33 am

Terramine wrote:You guys think you're real funny don't you? I'm a fucking supergenius and often times I'm right about so much that the other person ends up spiraling straight down to hell all because they didn't listen to me. I'm going to crack faster than light and multiversal travel, I'm going to become a Master Scientist, I know how to create a bomb that could destroy the entire universe.

Do you really think I'm stupid? Because if so I'm sorry to inform you, but that's you, not me.

I have a schizophrenic relative who made statements like you did here.

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Post by Rifneno on Thu Sep 17, 2015 2:16 am

SwobyJ wrote:
Terramine wrote:You guys think you're real funny don't you? I'm a fucking supergenius and often times I'm right about so much that the other person ends up spiraling straight down to hell all because they didn't listen to me. I'm going to crack faster than light and multiversal travel, I'm going to become a Master Scientist, I know how to create a bomb that could destroy the entire universe.

Do you really think I'm stupid? Because if so I'm sorry to inform you, but that's you, not me.

I have a schizophrenic relative who made statements like you did here.
Nuttier than a krogan gay orgy, isn't he?

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Post by Guest on Thu Sep 17, 2015 8:53 pm

Rifneno wrote:
SwobyJ wrote:
Terramine wrote:You guys think you're real funny don't you? I'm a fucking supergenius and often times I'm right about so much that the other person ends up spiraling straight down to hell all because they didn't listen to me. I'm going to crack faster than light and multiversal travel, I'm going to become a Master Scientist, I know how to create a bomb that could destroy the entire universe.

Do you really think I'm stupid? Because if so I'm sorry to inform you, but that's you, not me.

I have a schizophrenic relative who made statements like you did here.
Nuttier than a krogan gay orgy, isn't he?

That was a good one.

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Post by DoomsdayDevice on Thu Sep 17, 2015 10:32 pm

Terramine wrote:You guys think you're real funny don't you? I'm a fucking supergenius and often times I'm right about so much that the other person ends up spiraling straight down to hell all because they didn't listen to me. I'm going to crack faster than light and multiversal travel, I'm going to become a Master Scientist, I know how to create a bomb that could destroy the entire universe.

Do you really think I'm stupid? Because if so I'm sorry to inform you, but that's you, not me.

Haha, wow.

You sound like a broken record, that's all. Get over yourself.

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Post by Rifneno on Thu Sep 17, 2015 10:35 pm

DoomsdayDevice wrote:
Terramine wrote:You guys think you're real funny don't you? I'm a fucking supergenius and often times I'm right about so much that the other person ends up spiraling straight down to hell all because they didn't listen to me. I'm going to crack faster than light and multiversal travel, I'm going to become a Master Scientist, I know how to create a bomb that could destroy the entire universe.

Do you really think I'm stupid? Because if so I'm sorry to inform you, but that's you, not me.

Haha, wow.

You sound like a broken record, that's all. Get over yourself.
Don't make him angry!  He's working on an Egg McMuffin that can destroy time!

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Post by Rifneno on Fri Sep 18, 2015 4:32 am

MRW TerraIP talks about refuse

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(Hopefully it's big enough to read even if it requires magnifying.  I couldn't find a higher resolution.  But then again, I'm not a supergenius.)

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Post by DoomsdayDevice on Sat Sep 19, 2015 11:51 pm

Replaying ME3, Clone mission of Citadel DLC.

Clone: "You have nothing. All you can do is wait for the hammer to fall."

Shepard: "Bring a bigger hammer. Your last try was inadequate."

Clone: "I'm going to take everything you have, and everything you are."

I'm sure people have mentioned this here, but this was the first time this line actually stood out to me in game.

Now if that isn't a god damn reference, I don't know what it is.

Still amazing to see all these hints. I forgot how much there is, and I'm sure we still missed some.

It seems like the whole point of Citadel DLC is to foreshadow that Shepard is his own worst enemy.

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Post by ZerebusPrime on Sun Sep 20, 2015 5:03 am

It's a multi-point foreshadowing.  You can read a lot of things into those lines.  Most are pertinent.

"All you can do is wait for the hammer to fall," is equivalent to Harbinger taunting "You prolong the inevitable."

Shepard's reply breaks the fourth wall.  You all know that I can't accept the Citadel DLC as actually literally happening past Shepard's arrival at the French Sushi Restaurant of Mass Food Poisoning (Turians and Asari eating off the same plates, sushi seemingly coming from fish species sharing the same tank).  So Shepard breaking the fourth wall here might as well be a message from Shepard's dream self to his waking self for any number of reasons.

In such a metaphysical context, "I'm going to take everything you have, and everything that you are" might as well be "Struggle if you wish, your mind will be mine."


And then I got ticked off that Maya Brooks was being retconned into the canon in Walter's comicbooks. I really don't care for her literal existence.
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Post by Terramine on Sun Sep 20, 2015 8:45 am

It's not just a "foreshadowing". It's Harbinger's perversion of Shepard.

"I'm going to take everything you have, and everything you are."
"You will be mine Shepard"

You guys act like I'm stupid and you guys don't even know simple TV Tropes. Harbinger is the Big Bad, aka the Lord. He's an evil Lord of Light. The rest of the Reapers follow him despite being independent because they have "faith" in his diatribe. Kill him, and they stop believing they are the pinnacle.

Also I just realized something when watching that old ME4 concept footage...


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Post by Terramine on Sun Sep 20, 2015 8:48 am

Which that scene with the rubble? Can't be Tuchanka. Not unless they decided to render it for absolutely no reason at all and waste time and money? I mean concept work is one thing... but why did they render Tuchanka if the game is in another galaxy?

What if the game's name itself is a Lie? At the very least, that rubble place was either Tuchanka or London. Which is not supposed to be in Andromeda...

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