Indoctrination Theory Information!
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Indoctrination Theory Information!
Reposting the info from the OP of the BSN threads for posterity:
Mark I Thread
Mark II thread
Mark III thread
Videos:
Shepard's Indoctrination by Acayvos
The Indoctrination Theory - A Documentary by Clevernoob
The Indoctrination Theory - A Documentary Part 2 by Clevernoob
The Indoctrination Theory-A Documentary | Extended Cut by Clevernoob
Indoctrination Theory- ME3 Extended Cut DLC Analysis part 1 by FreddyCast
Indoctrination Theory- ME3 Extended Cut DLC Analysis part 2 by FreddyCast
Choose Wisely - Mass Effect 3 Indoctrination Theory by HellishFiend
The Sounds of Possession - Mass Effect 3 by HellishFiend
Choose Wisely - Episode 1 (ME3 Indoctrination Theory) by HellishFiend and TurboJ
Choose Wisely - Episode 2 (Facing the Darkness) by HellishFiend and TurboJ
Mass Effect 3 Indoctrination Theory by Prettz Zell
The Dark Journey into Shepard's Indoctrination (ME3) by FreddyCast
There is Only One Choice (Revised edit) by Jarrod L.
The Problem of Choice (A logical approach to Extended Cut ending interpretation) by Jarrod L.
Reading Material:
Parabolee's Blog about Indoctrination Theory.
TheoryCraftingHub's Indoctrination Theory Thread
Google Doc about why the endings as they stand make no sense
Restrider's ITÂ Top Ten
Other:
Indoctrination Theorists group
Mark I Thread
Mark II thread
Mark III thread
Videos:
Shepard's Indoctrination by Acayvos
The Indoctrination Theory - A Documentary by Clevernoob
The Indoctrination Theory - A Documentary Part 2 by Clevernoob
The Indoctrination Theory-A Documentary | Extended Cut by Clevernoob
Indoctrination Theory- ME3 Extended Cut DLC Analysis part 1 by FreddyCast
Indoctrination Theory- ME3 Extended Cut DLC Analysis part 2 by FreddyCast
Choose Wisely - Mass Effect 3 Indoctrination Theory by HellishFiend
The Sounds of Possession - Mass Effect 3 by HellishFiend
Choose Wisely - Episode 1 (ME3 Indoctrination Theory) by HellishFiend and TurboJ
Choose Wisely - Episode 2 (Facing the Darkness) by HellishFiend and TurboJ
Mass Effect 3 Indoctrination Theory by Prettz Zell
The Dark Journey into Shepard's Indoctrination (ME3) by FreddyCast
There is Only One Choice (Revised edit) by Jarrod L.
The Problem of Choice (A logical approach to Extended Cut ending interpretation) by Jarrod L.
Reading Material:
Parabolee's Blog about Indoctrination Theory.
TheoryCraftingHub's Indoctrination Theory Thread
Google Doc about why the endings as they stand make no sense
Restrider's ITÂ Top Ten
Other:
Indoctrination Theorists group
Last edited by DoomsdayDevice on Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:06 pm; edited 6 times in total (Reason for editing : Bolded and underlined headers for easier reading - Andro. / Added 2 videos - DD)
Byne- Threadmasterâ„¢
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This. Is. IT.
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DoomsdayDevice- Being of Light
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Clevernoob is amazing.
Avin180- Pod Crab
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Hey Byne, I have taken the freedom to change the link to the Top Ten list. It is now one of my blog posts so I am still able to make changes.
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brilliant. clevernoob is great. Can I also suggest watching choose wisely ep III?
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I'll be honest. I'm not a fan of clevernnob. He was okay in the first parts but his part three took all my respect I had for him away when he insulted Literalists and advocated the accursed RetakeME3 Movement.dork wrote:brilliant. clevernoob is great. Can I also suggest watching choose wisely ep III?
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Sweet, its up
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just curious, did anyone call you that before I did?DoomsdayDevice wrote:IT's bulldog approves of this topic.
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For the record, I'm not a fan of clevernoob at all, and that's putting it mildly. Don't want to de-rail.
Nope, it's all your fault!
Steelcan wrote:just curious, did anyone call you that before I did?DoomsdayDevice wrote:IT's bulldog approves of this topic.
Nope, it's all your fault!
DoomsdayDevice- Being of Light
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DoomsdayDevice wrote:For the record, I'm not a fan of clevernoob at all, and that's putting it mildly. Don't want to de-rail.Steelcan wrote:just curious, did anyone call you that before I did?DoomsdayDevice wrote:IT's bulldog approves of this topic.
Nope, it's all your fault!
Oh, mind PMing me why?
Just wondering what clevernoob did wrong, I for one was engrossed.
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Clevernoobs videos were pretty good for going into details, but had way too much opinion for a 'documentary'. I haven't bothered with the third one because I'm told it's mostly just an angry rant.
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I'd like to point this link out:
Indoctrination Theory--The Exhaustive List
It's a more comprehensive list of the evidence pointing to IT, without making you watch a video.
Indoctrination Theory--The Exhaustive List
It's a more comprehensive list of the evidence pointing to IT, without making you watch a video.
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Thought these might be useful at some point (for speculation purposes). Ending videos:
Control Ending (Renegade) (Paragon)
Destroy Ending (High) (Low)
Synthesis Ending
Reject Ending
Final confrontation with Illusive Man
Conversation with "Child"
Control Ending (Renegade) (Paragon)
Destroy Ending (High) (Low)
Synthesis Ending
Reject Ending
Final confrontation with Illusive Man
Conversation with "Child"
Re: Indoctrination Theory Information!
I noticed one thing missing from the exhaustive IT evidence list. The decision chamber is shaped like a dialogue wheel.
The child is where the investigate option should be. Control is in the paragon blue spot. Destroy is in the renegade red spot. Then you have synthesis in the neutral dialogue choice spot.
Notice destroy is renegade and red. Majority of players tend to be paragons. You're conditioned throughout ME3 to want to be paragon because ME3's renegade Shep is at her absolute worst. (Killing Mordin, betraying Krogan, etc)
Players will also no doubt notice the absence of any neutral dialogue options in ME3. My belief is its set up this way to make the sudden reveal of the middle synthesis option more appealing.
This is how I know Bioware is trying to indoctrinate players directly. Nobody in the Mass Effect universe associates moral decisions with the colors red and blue. Only the player does.
The child is where the investigate option should be. Control is in the paragon blue spot. Destroy is in the renegade red spot. Then you have synthesis in the neutral dialogue choice spot.
Notice destroy is renegade and red. Majority of players tend to be paragons. You're conditioned throughout ME3 to want to be paragon because ME3's renegade Shep is at her absolute worst. (Killing Mordin, betraying Krogan, etc)
Players will also no doubt notice the absence of any neutral dialogue options in ME3. My belief is its set up this way to make the sudden reveal of the middle synthesis option more appealing.
This is how I know Bioware is trying to indoctrinate players directly. Nobody in the Mass Effect universe associates moral decisions with the colors red and blue. Only the player does.
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Added Jarrod L.'s two videos to the OP.
Excellent stuff, I absolutely recommend watching them if you haven't. =)
Excellent stuff, I absolutely recommend watching them if you haven't. =)
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Angry Joe's video on the Indoctrination Theory:
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We need to add Hellish Fiend's latest video. The 3 part of the choose wisely series. Its been up for a few weeks now.
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this is great, to have evreything in one place
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GethJuggernautMKII wrote:I noticed one thing missing from the exhaustive IT evidence list. The decision chamber is shaped like a dialogue wheel.
The child is where the investigate option should be. Control is in the paragon blue spot. Destroy is in the renegade red spot. Then you have synthesis in the neutral dialogue choice spot.
Notice destroy is renegade and red. Majority of players tend to be paragons. You're conditioned throughout ME3 to want to be paragon because ME3's renegade Shep is at her absolute worst. (Killing Mordin, betraying Krogan, etc)
Players will also no doubt notice the absence of any neutral dialogue options in ME3. My belief is its set up this way to make the sudden reveal of the middle synthesis option more appealing.
This is how I know Bioware is trying to indoctrinate players directly. Nobody in the Mass Effect universe associates moral decisions with the colors red and blue. Only the player does.
Just to add something more to this, Mac Walters said in the pre-release interview where he talked about the rachni choice having a big effect on the ending (ha ha ha) that he actually usually plays Renegade. Perhaps that could play into the ending choices?
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Hmmmm I think there is some information missing, but other than that it's pretty good.
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