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Post by Byne Wed Jan 09, 2013 3:17 am



Last edited by DoomsdayDevice on Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:06 pm; edited 6 times in total (Reason for editing : Bolded and underlined headers for easier reading - Andro. / Added 2 videos - DD)
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Post by Master Blaster Wed Jan 09, 2013 3:21 am

This. Is. IT.
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Post by DoomsdayDevice Wed Jan 09, 2013 3:23 am

IT's bulldog approves of this topic.
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Post by Avin180 Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:41 am

Clevernoob is amazing.
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Post by Restrider Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:22 am

Hey Byne, I have taken the freedom to change the link to the Top Ten list. It is now one of my blog posts so I am still able to make changes.
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Post by dorktainian Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:04 am

brilliant. clevernoob is great. Can I also suggest watching choose wisely ep III?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa Wed Jan 09, 2013 5:15 pm

dork wrote:brilliant. clevernoob is great. Can I also suggest watching choose wisely ep III?
I'll be honest. I'm not a fan of clevernnob. He was okay in the first parts but his part three took all my respect I had for him away when he insulted Literalists and advocated the accursed RetakeME3 Movement.
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Post by lex0r Wed Jan 09, 2013 7:56 pm

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Post by solidsnake78 Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:31 pm

Sweet, its up cheers
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Post by Steelcan Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:59 am

DoomsdayDevice wrote:IT's bulldog approves of this topic.
just curious, did anyone call you that before I did?
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Post by DoomsdayDevice Thu Jan 10, 2013 4:28 am

For the record, I'm not a fan of clevernoob at all, and that's putting it mildly. Don't want to de-rail.

Steelcan wrote:
DoomsdayDevice wrote:IT's bulldog approves of this topic.
just curious, did anyone call you that before I did?

Nope, it's all your fault! Grin
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Post by Avin180 Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:09 am

DoomsdayDevice wrote:For the record, I'm not a fan of clevernoob at all, and that's putting it mildly. Don't want to de-rail.

Steelcan wrote:
DoomsdayDevice wrote:IT's bulldog approves of this topic.
just curious, did anyone call you that before I did?

Nope, it's all your fault! Grin

Oh, mind PMing me why?

Just wondering what clevernoob did wrong, I for one was engrossed.
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Post by RavenEyry Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:17 am

Clevernoobs videos were pretty good for going into details, but had way too much opinion for a 'documentary'. I haven't bothered with the third one because I'm told it's mostly just an angry rant.
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Post by zninjazero Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:51 am

I'd like to point this link out:

Indoctrination Theory--The Exhaustive List

It's a more comprehensive list of the evidence pointing to IT, without making you watch a video.

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Post by Humakt Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:10 pm

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Post by GethJuggernautMKII Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:43 pm

I noticed one thing missing from the exhaustive IT evidence list. The decision chamber is shaped like a dialogue wheel.


The child is where the investigate option should be. Control is in the paragon blue spot. Destroy is in the renegade red spot. Then you have synthesis in the neutral dialogue choice spot.

Notice destroy is renegade and red. Majority of players tend to be paragons. You're conditioned throughout ME3 to want to be paragon because ME3's renegade Shep is at her absolute worst. (Killing Mordin, betraying Krogan, etc)

Players will also no doubt notice the absence of any neutral dialogue options in ME3. My belief is its set up this way to make the sudden reveal of the middle synthesis option more appealing.

This is how I know Bioware is trying to indoctrinate players directly. Nobody in the Mass Effect universe associates moral decisions with the colors red and blue. Only the player does.
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Post by DoomsdayDevice Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:08 pm

Added Jarrod L.'s two videos to the OP.

Excellent stuff, I absolutely recommend watching them if you haven't. =)
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Post by ElSuperGecko Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:35 pm

Angry Joe's video on the Indoctrination Theory:
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Post by Makrys Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:57 pm

We need to add Hellish Fiend's latest video. The 3 part of the choose wisely series. Its been up for a few weeks now.
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Post by shadoww6021 Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:02 pm

this is great, to have evreything in one place
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Post by Dwailing Sat May 04, 2013 7:41 pm

GethJuggernautMKII wrote:I noticed one thing missing from the exhaustive IT evidence list. The decision chamber is shaped like a dialogue wheel.


The child is where the investigate option should be. Control is in the paragon blue spot. Destroy is in the renegade red spot. Then you have synthesis in the neutral dialogue choice spot.

Notice destroy is renegade and red. Majority of players tend to be paragons. You're conditioned throughout ME3 to want to be paragon because ME3's renegade Shep is at her absolute worst. (Killing Mordin, betraying Krogan, etc)

Players will also no doubt notice the absence of any neutral dialogue options in ME3. My belief is its set up this way to make the sudden reveal of the middle synthesis option more appealing.

This is how I know Bioware is trying to indoctrinate players directly. Nobody in the Mass Effect universe associates moral decisions with the colors red and blue. Only the player does.

Just to add something more to this, Mac Walters said in the pre-release interview where he talked about the rachni choice having a big effect on the ending (ha ha ha) that he actually usually plays Renegade. Perhaps that could play into the ending choices?
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Post by Master Blaster Sat Jun 15, 2013 7:35 am

Hmmmm I think there is some information missing, but other than that it's pretty good.
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