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Post by Andromidius Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:29 am

It may be an 'interlude' moment, where Shepard is walking around the Citadel as if nothing is wrong and meeting old friends and generally having a good time.

There's a similar scene, as mentioned before, in Duke Nukem Forever (sigh). The Duke gets wounded and knocked out cold, and wakes up in one of his Strip Clubs where he has to do various tasks for one of his groupies before they get it on. Duke in no way seems to realise this isn't reality, up until he finishes his task and wakes up and continues the fight.

Could be something similar?
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Post by dorktainian Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:26 pm

nexus

i was thinking maybe something along the same lines as the opening scene of this. Shepard existing in this alternate reality and all his friends are there......but it's not real. Nothing is real. It is a lie.

He has to follow through the 'reality' presented to him picking up clues along the way. when the clues are pieced together - then make a decision to 'leave'.... followed by the 'breath' scene.
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Post by ViolentSound Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:33 pm

So I've read up about IT. found it as a very great interpretation of the events.
But i was curious as to what you guys think about the Next DLC
we all know that they next piece has all 8 of the writers working on it, re-hired Seth Green, re-hired the composer for ME3
Two pics have been posted. One with a Krogan and the other a picture of Sheperd and Wrex in a casino looking place.
I believe it's Illium...
So those are what we know so far. Dosen't look anything like a post-breathe scene. But i don't want to rule it out because there is too much involved, so it's probably a big chunk of DLC probably the last Single player one. It makes sense since the one year anniversary is coming up pretty quickly.

Anyways, just wanted to know what everyone's thoughts where and if there's any clues as to if it's related to IT or not. also, very interested in wondering what you want the new DLC to be. Not really related to IT but wanted to see what you guys think.

Also, i would like to know if you think Anderson is indoctrinated too. There was something off about him, i noticed. Just wanted to see if anyone had opinions on that. thanks Very Happy

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Post by pasza89 Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:53 pm

It's probably not Illium because the neons are in English. It could be somewhere on Earth or just a human area on Citadel/planet/colony/city
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Post by Allynna Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:07 pm

I dont think its Illium too. My two cents - human ward on the Citadel or Earth.
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Post by 401 Kill Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:16 pm

The picture with the Krogan is likely for an upcoming mp DLC, because it is likely taken on firebase Goddess.

This DLC is huge, the fact that all writers are working on it, Sam Hullick is working on it, and like you've mentioned, Seth Green has done VO work on it. This alone means its going to be a big DLC. Coupled with the fact that it is likely the last SP mission DLC for ME3 means it is going to be very, very important. If something like IT that includes post ending content or ending content does not appear in the DLC, and we are in the same place then as we have always been regaurding the endings, I definitely will be dissapointed in Bioware. IT (or something similar) has so much potential, fits in so perfectly, is something Bioware has done before, and is something that needs to happen in order to win fans back. I certainly don't care for a DLC coming now that is not ending related, seeing as this is the ending to a trilogy and the end is garbage as it stands literally. A mid-game DLC will just be sad and pointless for the last DLC or "bridge" to ME4. Those endings need to be addressed properly.
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Post by pasza89 Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:19 pm

401 Kill wrote:Coupled with the fact that it is likely the last SP mission DLC for ME3

It's not a fact, it has never been said it's the last SP DLC. It is a popular rumour that came up due to someone's inability to read.

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Post by southbeatz Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:26 pm

Regardless of last DLC or not, Bioware needs to address the endings. If they release a DLC that doesn't address the endings they might lose quite a bit of customers. I just don't think a lot of people, even the Anti-IT crowd, would be thrilled with a DLC that essentially could be useless.
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Post by ViolentSound Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:46 pm

I think at this point Bioware has to do something with this DLC in relation to the ending. The fans have all cried out, and i think they where holding it off, just to keep buzz alive. I think the buzz around the game is dying out so they're gonna push this last big DLC. I think SP it's probably gonna be the last. Since each of the DLC'S have been so big, and not everyone has a new XBOX model.

Also, i thought it looked very Citadel like, that's why i would've been a littel disappointed if it was, becuase it looks to simmilar.

However, i read somewhere that the place Shep. and Wrex are mentioned being in Azure on illium.

I love illium, thats my favorite planet, so its sad that they haven;t allowed us to revisit. Even though pre-rumors said that we would be able to re-visit, if im not mistaken.

The One with the krogan looks to me like a MP DLC, maybe coming out at the same time?

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Post by 401 Kill Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:52 pm

pasza89 wrote:
401 Kill wrote:Coupled with the fact that it is likely the last SP mission DLC for ME3
It's not a fact, it has never been said it's the last SP DLC. It is a popular rumour that came up due to someone's inability to read.
I said mission DLC, we still are missing apearence pack #2, and there is opportunity for some minor dlc's such as a vehicle DLC possibly. I am refering to major DLC's (This would be the third after Omega and Leviathan, ME2 had three) so calm yourself. Next, Bioware has said that they will only support the DLC for one year. ME3 came out in March of last year and from the tweets of the Bioware employees it seems to be in QA, next they would have to go through certification. I would certainly be surprised if this DLC was released before the end of February, let alone release another massive DLC before the beginning of March after that.

We are speculating about a DLC that we know next to nothing about so of course nothing is proven fact. I agree while I shouldn't have said fact, I should have said it seems likely to me (which I said likely anyway) The reasons above are why I made that particular comment. And I can read just fine, so instead of immediately bashing me, how about you ask me to elaborate on what I meant by that hmm?
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Post by 401 Kill Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:59 pm

ViolentSound wrote:I think at this point Bioware has to do something with this DLC in relation to the ending. The fans have all cried out, and i think they where holding it off, just to keep buzz alive. I think the buzz around the game is dying out so they're gonna push this last big DLC. I think SP it's probably gonna be the last. Since each of the DLC'S have been so big, and not everyone has a new XBOX model.
Also, i thought it looked very Citadel like, that's why i would've been a littel disappointed if it was, becuase it looks to simmilar.

However, i read somewhere that the place Shep. and Wrex are mentioned being in Azure on illium.

I love illium, thats my favorite planet, so its sad that they haven;t allowed us to revisit. Even though pre-rumors said that we would be able to re-visit, if im not mistaken.

The One with the krogan looks to me like a MP DLC, maybe coming out at the same time?
I pretty much agree with you. The lack of any good hubs was dissapointing, Illium and Omega had the most opportunity, but we now know that a hub at Omega won't be happening. Illium was a great planet, and it is now in the game but unvisitable (if that is even a word).

Also, I believe the MP DLC will be out maybe a couple of days/ weeks before the SP DLC, maybe be tide us over for the big reveal?

And welcome to the forums!!!
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Post by ViolentSound Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:19 pm

Thanks 401 Kill. I wasn't too crazy about the ending, but i wasn't enraged. I'm a big fan of the trilogy. Played all three multiple times. Just got done my 3rd play through with the ME3. each one i picked the different endings haha. Yeah, i love ME3 but i think ME2 was better, it felt bigger...in terms of exploration and getting immersed into the universe. ME3,watching it all get destroyed was a bit depressing and heartbreaking. I love the dark attitude of it, but i wish it had more moments. Especially with your love interest...i didn't think there was enough of those moments.

Would you like to see an epilogue DLC if the one coming doesn't change anything?
i would like to see one, so you can play maybe Joker, or how ever the love interest was and explore,catch up with survivors and figure out where the universe is heading afterwards.


Honestly IMO if IT is true then that means, that there's going to be a bridge someowhere between ME3 and ME4. And that the war is still going to continue maybe into a whole new trilogy, and the ending we got now, is becuase Bioware wanted to give a conclusion to those who woudn't pay for any DLC's or cant afford it and just play the base game. While all the fans would pay to have a "real" ending. Dosen't seem fair, but maybe if they where rushed, to a DLC now when they've had time to really work on it and plan it out that it would be an amazing way to end the trilogy

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Post by DoomsdayDevice Thu Jan 31, 2013 2:34 am

Merged the 'Just joined-New DLC coming, thoughts?' thread with this one.

Let's keep all the speculations in one topic. Wink
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Post by Guest Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:32 am

Lots of imo headcanoning (harsh use of word though) that 'it's all in Shepard's mind!', from one screenshot.

It's just one screenshot. I'm MUCH more looking forward to the trailer :)

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Post by Terramine Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:55 am

SwobyJ wrote:Lots of imo headcanoning (harsh use of word though) that 'it's all in Shepard's mind!', from one screenshot.

It's just one screenshot. I'm MUCH more looking forward to the trailer :)
No you are right, there is literally nothing to base this off of aside from our current preconceptions of what we think is going to happen. However it's still something to do while we wait for said trailer.

That area doesn't even have to be a part of the indoctrination attempt in order to be a part of a reveal, the content is likely to be big and we don't know exactly how much content nor how widespread said content is.
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Post by Hrothdane Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:28 am

IronicParticle wrote:
SwobyJ wrote:Lots of imo headcanoning (harsh use of word though) that 'it's all in Shepard's mind!', from one screenshot.

It's just one screenshot. I'm MUCH more looking forward to the trailer :)
No you are right, there is literally nothing to base this off of aside from our current preconceptions of what we think is going to happen. However it's still something to do while we wait for said trailer.

That area doesn't even have to be a part of the indoctrination attempt in order to be a part of a reveal, the content is likely to be big and we don't know exactly how much content nor how widespread said content is.

Yep. It's also fun to kick the speculation ball and see where it goes.
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Post by Terramine Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:47 am

Hrothdane wrote:
IronicParticle wrote:
SwobyJ wrote:Lots of imo headcanoning (harsh use of word though) that 'it's all in Shepard's mind!', from one screenshot.

It's just one screenshot. I'm MUCH more looking forward to the trailer :)
No you are right, there is literally nothing to base this off of aside from our current preconceptions of what we think is going to happen. However it's still something to do while we wait for said trailer.

That area doesn't even have to be a part of the indoctrination attempt in order to be a part of a reveal, the content is likely to be big and we don't know exactly how much content nor how widespread said content is.

Yep. It's also fun to kick the speculation ball and see where it goes.
What time is it!? :*tinfoil*: Speculations time! Ah, yes...
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Post by ViolentSound Thu Jan 31, 2013 1:58 pm

I don't mind if it's one if those "breath of fresh air" moments I like those moments. I wonder if this is hinting that Wrex may be a temp squad member. Which would be pretty cool. Considering that pretty much everyone from the first one is a squadmate.

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Post by ivenoidea Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:47 pm

I posted this in the Mark IV thread but it's moving so fast, so I'm putting it here as well: (This is assuming that this is, as some believe, a scene in a kind of afterlife / limbo, which would make sense if Wrex, Kaidan (?) and Wong are there.)

Everybody seems to have ignored the text IN the tweet.
"Looks like a nice place for some R&R..."

Now I do admit, I did have to google R&R since i wasn't familiar with that, apparently it means "Rest and Relaxation".

Think about that for a moment. Was the citadel ever a relaxing place? Not really. It always seemed like a place that is very busy and in a hurry. Sorta like space-NYC. You wouldn't necessarily go there to chill. (Hope I didn't offend any NYCers)

But both "Rest" as well as "Relaxation" would fit with an afterlife / limbo state. "Rest" is pretty obvious, considering we're talking about death, "Relaxation" makes sense because I imagine in afterlife Shepard would be able to just take a deep breath and really relax and reflect on things. Something he wasn't really able to do during the game.

Sorry this is so long btw, I'm horrible at keeping stuff brief.
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Post by WeAreHarbinger Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:11 pm

Reminds me of the wards from Thane's loyalty mission.

Would be cool to go (back) there or to a place of similar design, i always wanted to explore that area in ME 2.

Interesting none the less, especially the use of the Wrex like character just for a teaser. That Asari just below "Shepard" reminds me of Liara.
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Post by ViolentSound Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:19 pm

I think we can assume it's wrex, same color armor and the head is the same color. Some-one pointed it out that it looked like kaiden...Maybe it is a limbo place 0.o..it would be intersting if the new DLC was like a Limbo place and he breaks out of it, and then another DLC which would be the big one, would finish the fight or something like that..

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Post by Terramine Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:26 am

ivenoidea wrote:I posted this in the Mark IV thread but it's moving so fast, so I'm putting it here as well: (This is assuming that this is, as some believe, a scene in a kind of afterlife / limbo, which would make sense if Wrex, Kaidan (?) and Wong are there.)

Everybody seems to have ignored the text IN the tweet.
"Looks like a nice place for some R&R..."

*snip*
Another thing that should be noted is that R&R usually is more specifically when you rest and relax after your job or something to that effect. To a soldier, considering a war is happening and Shepard is very important... you'd assume R&R would be post ending.

I mean a perfect example of R&R is like when Jacob invited Shepard to go to that Rio bar AFTER the war.

So if there was something subtle about those words, then it's possible Bioware is hinting at POST-ending content.
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Post by dorktainian Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:29 am

R & R during a war is like waving a massive fecking flag at us.

this is the way I see it.

1. Breath.
2. Rescue.
3. The defeat of Harbinger - thus the defeat of the Reapers.
4. Hospital.
5. Party Time.

unless (and i kind of hope i'm wrong) everyones dead and this is like a dream sequence - maybe even flashback as shepard prepares to make a crucial decision in his mind battle with starjar - or it could be a red herring)

Thanks EAware.
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Post by Terramine Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:00 pm

dork wrote:R & R during a war is like waving a massive fecking flag at us.

this is the way I see it.

1. Breath.
2. Rescue.
3. The defeat of Harbinger - thus the defeat of the Reapers.
4. Hospital.
5. Party Time.

unless (and i kind of hope i'm wrong) everyones dead and this is like a dream sequence - maybe even flashback as shepard prepares to make a crucial decision in his mind battle with starjar - or it could be a red herring)

Thanks EAware.
Exactly, of course the defeat of harbinger could be changed to other things like say... "sabotage the real Crucible because it's a trap" or any of the other concepts people have proposed that make sense. Though I believe yours would make the most sense.

It'd really suck if the endings really were just complete shit this whole time and there is no reveal, it is February 2nd so hopefully we will find out soon enough.
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Post by ViolentSound Sat Feb 02, 2013 4:37 pm

The lack of Harbinger and Shep show down is depressing.

Just thought of something, how cool would it be if shep is inside of harbinger and to take him down from the inside and maybe there is some kill switch inside of him that kills the rest of them..
I mean the kill swtich would be too conviente but fighting some big boss creature thing and then blowing him from the inside and trying to escape for your life.

Id pay more then 15 bucks for that 8)

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