(XL) Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark IV!

I didn't much mind Vega.

Kai Leng on the other hand... From a legit threat in the first books to a bad joke.

Vega is fine to me, that's only because i ship him and Steve....

In all seriousness, the only thing i'd like in a remaster is a little less clunky in ME, 1. We'll likely only get a texture update though. I still love ME 1's story as the best, it's just the gameplay can be tiring. I've been spoiled by updated engines. Also an ending rewrite but that's never going to happen...

I like how they took the Illusive Man and made him the Illusive Troll, that guy fucks with Shepard and trolls him and the alliance the whole game. He's like "take over the Citadel Lang, but don't kill Shepard... Hehehehe" "Shepard, I already got the Catalyst, hehehehe, I'm not gonna tell you what it is either. Bye. Hehehe". "Hey Shep, guess what? I can control the Reapers, but I... Need you to understand". "Hahaha Shepard, I made you shoot Anderson. Hahahaha. GG."

The Illusive Trollololol in action.


God ME3 is stupid. Jesus tits, it's writing and narrative is so pedestrian

TurianRebel212 wrote:A new Krogan or Batarian tank character would have been much better

Cyberfrog wrote:I didn't much mind Vega.

Kai Leng on the other hand... From a legit threat in the first books to a bad joke.

http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=31743

Great dissection of how Kai Leng is unforgivably terrible in every possible way.

WeAreHarbinger wrote:In all seriousness, the only thing i'd like in a remaster is a little less clunky in ME, 1. We'll likely only get a texture update though. I still love ME 1's story as the best, it's just the gameplay can be tiring. I've been spoiled by updated engines. Also an ending rewrite but that's never going to happen...

I've always said, the gameplay got better and the story got worse as the series went on. ME1's gameplay was like ME3's ending. Completely abysmal.

My son keeps telling me that we all should have been a bit suspicious before ME3s release due to the rapid nature of its release after ME2. My lad played through ME2 in about a day and a half after release with no sleep, but as soon as he started playing ME3 he gave it up as a bad job. The game was a massive step backwards in terms of the story. We had a reaper threat and who do we end up shooting at? fucking Cerberus troops and....... more cerberus troops accompanied by that utter waste of a villain Kai Lame. He was about as menacing as Edi's cameltoe.

As for an ending re-write? whats the point? I was suggesting to my son that if they do release a remastered collection, that we only play up to cronos station anyway (the real ending of the game)

Kai Lame.

EPIC truthful parody of the name.

Came across some Andromeda news and decided I'd see how the indoctrination theory was holding up these days. This forum came up. I pretty much lost hope for the series after the me3 ending debacle and subsequent dlc releases, but any pretense of there being even the slightest possibility of redemption for Bioware was gone forever when i read the details of Andromeda. Reading through a bit of the backlog here confirms to me that even you ardent IT supporters feel there's no chance of any eventual payoff

Master Blaster wrote:

Rifneno wrote:So, BSN is shutting down.

LOL.

But I hope someone has a backup of the original IT thread.  I think someone did, but I'm not sure.  =/

I know we have it in the IT threads yet Bioware is going to purge anything on the BSN by October 25th i believe. So even the old IT threads will be nuked unless we download or screenshot EVERY last one.

I have a present.

Couldn't get the external links to download. All the text and images are there though.

@triggerwarning

I'm the most realistically optimistic person here.  Odds are not in our favor, but they also haven't changed over the years.  The design documents for ME:A showed up in a Mac Walters twitter pic not long after the Citadel DLC was released, IIRC.  That implies that Andromeda was being plotted out during the DLC cycle of ME3 because those docs are friggen huge.  Meanwhile, the Citadel DLC went out of its way to nod at every niche group in the fan base, including ours.  So BioWare was at least aware of our expectations when ME:4ndromeda was put into motion.

And that's where we've stood and where we still stand until we play the game. Everything else is noise and idle chatter.

ZerebusPrime wrote:The design documents for ME:A showed up in a Mac Walters twitter pic not long after the Citadel DLC was released, IIRC.  That implies that Andromeda was being plotted out during the DLC cycle of ME3 because those docs are friggen huge.

I must have missed that one, what tweet was that?

windsurfing wrote:

ZerebusPrime wrote:The design documents for ME:A showed up in a Mac Walters twitter pic not long after the Citadel DLC was released, IIRC.  That implies that Andromeda was being plotted out during the DLC cycle of ME3 because those docs are friggen huge.

I must have missed that one, what tweet was that?

I remember that tweet.  It's possible it was a joke by a queef because it was a picture of three folders.  Guess what colors they were.

It's also entirely possible that at some point they tossed everything and started over from scratch.  The plot in the end product is very often completely different from the original idea.  For example, Ghostbusters III wasn't supposed to be the worst thing in the whole of reality.

Oh yeah I remember that tweet now, at the time I thought he was taking the piss out of the fans for the endings uproar. For all we know that could have been nicely kept empty sheet of pages in those binders.

windsurfing wrote:Oh yeah I remember that tweet now, at the time I thought he was taking the piss out of the fans for the endings uproar. For all we know that could have been nicely kept empty sheet of pages in those binders.

Smart money's on snuff porn.

Rifneno wrote:

windsurfing wrote:Oh yeah I remember that tweet now, at the time I thought he was taking the piss out of the fans for the endings uproar. For all we know that could have been nicely kept empty sheet of pages in those binders.

Smart money's on snuff porn.

Chris Priestley's itinerary for breakfast lunch and dinner

triggerwarning wrote:

Rifneno wrote:

windsurfing wrote:Oh yeah I remember that tweet now, at the time I thought he was taking the piss out of the fans for the endings uproar. For all we know that could have been nicely kept empty sheet of pages in those binders.

Smart money's on snuff porn.

Chris Priestley's itinerary for breakfast lunch and dinner

He only eats one meal a day.

In order for the next meal to begin, the previous one has to end.

Rifneno wrote:

triggerwarning wrote:

Rifneno wrote:

windsurfing wrote:Oh yeah I remember that tweet now, at the time I thought he was taking the piss out of the fans for the endings uproar. For all we know that could have been nicely kept empty sheet of pages in those binders.

Smart money's on snuff porn.

Chris Priestley's itinerary for breakfast lunch and dinner

He only eats one meal a day.

In order for the next meal to begin, the previous one has to end.

It pleases me he's still seeking employment.

triggerwarning wrote:

Rifneno wrote:

triggerwarning wrote:

Rifneno wrote:

windsurfing wrote:Oh yeah I remember that tweet now, at the time I thought he was taking the piss out of the fans for the endings uproar. For all we know that could have been nicely kept empty sheet of pages in those binders.

Smart money's on snuff porn.

Chris Priestley's itinerary for breakfast lunch and dinner

He only eats one meal a day.

In order for the next meal to begin, the previous one has to end.

It pleases me he's still seeking employment.

Something like this is the only way he'll ever please a woman.

magnetite wrote:I have a present.

Couldn't get the external links to download. All the text and images are there though.

Wow! That's pretty neat! I'll check it out.

Did some more fiddling with the settings and got it to include external links, but the file size is huge compared to not including them.

Just for the first IT Thread, it's around 7 GB and counting. While the link I posted had the first thread around 700 MB. For some reason it counts the old BSN forum links as external, even though they are on the same domain as the newer BSN forum.

Final size is around 8.4 GB for the first thread.

magnetite wrote:
Just for the first IT Thread, it's around 7 GB and counting. While the link I posted had the first thread around 700 MB. For some reason it counts the old BSN forum links as external, even though they are on the same domain as the newer BSN forum.

Yeah the old links links are on on the "social." host instead of the "forum." one.

I was wondering why your archive is about twice the size of mine and, damn, you included the non-BSN media, i.e. all outside links like tumblr, imageshack etc., which I decided against since it's not as likely that those sites shut down. Not entirely impossible ofc tho...
At least you didn't include the youtube videos.

So I was hesitating on uploading my archive due to worries of legal nature. What's EA's policy on people scraping their sites?

I used HTTrack so it was mostly automated. I just set everything up and watch it go.

For some reason, unless you set the external mirroring depth to at least 1, it doesn't download the external links. So that means, the link on this page won't be downloaded. And so setting it to 1, downloads the link, as well as any links on the page which it links to.

I don't know whether Bioware is nuking the forums.bioware.com or also the social.bioware.com, but I decided to get both of them.

Places like Tumbler or Reddit aren't going offline anytime soon, but the user can still delete the files they uploaded. Same for Youtube. I've come across a few dead links when doing this that otherwise worked in 2012.

I don't know about the legal nature of downloading websites. If they didn't want people downloading this stuff, their site's robots.txt would forbid it. They seem to allow it though.

You could just go to each page and go right click save as in Chrome or Firefox, but that would take the better part of a day or more.



Damn, is it just me, or when you edit a post the text is gray on a white background? Hard to see anything.

magnetite wrote:I used HTTrack so it was mostly automated. I just set everything up and watch it go.

For some reason, unless you set the external mirroring depth to at least 1, it doesn't download the external links. So that means, the link on this page won't be downloaded. And so setting it to 1, downloads the link, as well as any links on the page which it links to.

Yeah I had that problem too with wget and level of depth, but found there were filter options, like the host had to contain "bioware.com".

I don't know whether Bioware is nuking the forums.bioware.com or also the social.bioware.com, but I decided to get both of them.

Places like Tumbler or Reddit aren't going offline anytime soon, but the user can still delete the files they uploaded. Same for Youtube. I've come across a few dead links when doing this that otherwise worked in 2012.

I agree. And it's true that these days you usually have more than enough space or bandwidth to allow for bigger files.

I don't know about the legal nature of downloading websites. If they didn't want people downloading this stuff, their site's robots.txt would forbid it. They seem to allow it though.

You could just go to each page and go right click save as in Chrome or Firefox, but that would take the better part of a day or more.

Yeah I thought so too that taking a copy of a site should be fine--did some googling too, http://superuser.com/questions/179253/how-legal-is-site-scraping-using-curl.

But then I wondered: What's the situation regarding putting your copy online? If someone downloads it and decides to host it, but when EA finds their properties (html, css, js, imgs) hosted by someone and that person blames you? Etc...

Hence I pussied out from uploading mine >.>

Damn, is it just me, or when you edit a post the text is gray on a white background? Hard to see anything.

Yeah, better have your monitor at the exact right angle.

But then I wondered: What's the situation regarding putting your copy online? If someone downloads it and decides to host it, but when EA finds their properties (html, css, js, imgs) hosted by someone and that person blames you? Etc...

Hence I pussied out from uploading mine >.>

I made it so only those with the link could download it.

There was some guy who made a Trump video using ME2 assets, and put it on Youtube, which got taken down. There's still plenty of mirrors to it though.

Any tips for opening iso files? I used to have Daemon Tools, but it doesn't work on Windows 10.

DoomsdayDevice wrote:Any tips for opening iso files? I used to have Daemon Tools, but it doesn't work on Windows 10.

Pretty sure winrar will open an iso like a zip file.