Literalists say the darndest things

401 Kill wrote:I bet this guy is a literalist:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_a_urdgrl2E&feature=youtube_gdata_player

These people probably are as well. In fact I think this is what trolls did before the internet was invented:

https://youtu.be/-8-xTmiikMw?t=15s

Some people believe that grinding the extra EMS points to get a 10 second special ending (breath scene) is not worth the effort. Pfft.

This was pre-EC mind you.

Just had this conversation:

"You hope too much."


Yeah, its not like it was a major theme of Mass Effect and especially ME3.

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/15898757/2#15901920

Wahahahahaha!

Auld Wulf wrote...
I've never known any good guy in anything I've loved to do that. I can't think of Picard running around and committing genocide. We all know that if Picard was in that position, he'd have chosen Control or Synthesis, because he could handle that, he'd be able to understand it. He'd also have realised that each reaper is a nation, and that there are people trapped within those giant spaceships, people who could be freed.

BatmanTurian wrote...
Picard wouldn't choose synthesis because of his experience with the borg, nor would he choose control because of the Prime Directive, you moron. I'm not even a huge Star Trek fan and I know this.

@Batman
Pure gold.

Picard would flip out at the harvest. It's arguably worse then what the borg do.

Also this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aJCrMDl-H4

BatmanTurian wrote:http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/15898757/2#15901920

Wahahahahaha!

Auld Wulf wrote...
I've never known any good guy in anything I've loved to do that. I can't think of Picard running around and committing genocide. We all know that if Picard was in that position, he'd have chosen Control or Synthesis, because he could handle that, he'd be able to understand it. He'd also have realised that each reaper is a nation, and that there are people trapped within those giant spaceships, people who could be freed.

BatmanTurian wrote...
Picard wouldn't choose synthesis because of his experience with the borg, nor would he choose control because of the Prime Directive, you moron. I'm not even a huge Star Trek fan and I know this.

Picard is the WORST example from Star Trek he could have picked!

Why?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvNn_vJy0BM 2:00

This is what Control is, essentially. Memories and knowledge intact, connection to loved ones lost, in command of the enemy forces.

Where has Auld Wulf been all my life? His posts are hilariously stupid.

BatmanTurian wrote:http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/15898757/2#15901920

Wahahahahaha!

Auld Wulf wrote...
I've never known any good guy in anything I've loved to do that. I can't think of Picard running around and committing genocide. We all know that if Picard was in that position, he'd have chosen Control or Synthesis, because he could handle that, he'd be able to understand it. He'd also have realised that each reaper is a nation, and that there are people trapped within those giant spaceships, people who could be freed.

BatmanTurian wrote...
Picard wouldn't choose synthesis because of his experience with the borg, nor would he choose control because of the Prime Directive, you moron. I'm not even a huge Star Trek fan and I know this.

I have never watched a single Star Trek episode and I know this...god even a glancing knowledge of the Borg events would be enough to tell one what Picard would pick.

At worst, Picard would choose Refuse. He always looks for another way, is unwilling to sacrifice for victory. That is, when he's all alone.

With people with him to advice or even egg him on, he would pick Destroy. The hard choice. But he'd not be happy about it, not in the slightest.

GethPrimeMKII wrote:Where has Auld Wulf been all my life? His posts are hilariously stupid.

Auld came onto the BSN quite recently...I think it was an control/synthesis thread.
Wolf's problem, like so many others is one simple thing: presenting opinion as fact and that every single statement consists of an insult belittling someone else's intellect.
It honestly has him or her come off as not only rude, but foolish.
I know you're not being serious, but there it is.

I would like to just think "troll" and move on... but his love for synthesis seems genuine, so far.

Of course, he does the same thing I suspect every Synthesis fan of doing - liking Synthesis for something it isn't. At least most Destroy choosers admit the (assuming literal interpretation) downsides. Synthesis-fans insist that there can't be a downside to Synthesis, since the Intelligence wouldn't lie or deceive, and the epilogue has pretty pictures where people do productive stuff and also features EDI suggesting that becoming even more like a Reaper would be pretty neat.

Especially when they describe Synthesis as 'paradise' and 'pure harmony'. And then describe Destroy as 'evil' and 'genocidal'.

Both show basically the same thing - civilisation being rebuilt, people getting on with life.

If there was even one side of various races all together having a party in the Synthesis ending, and one side of people crying and mourning the deaths of the Geth or EDI, I might have some slight sympathy for them.

Very slight.

I get sick to my stomach when they argue that the previous civilizations can still be saved, despite being processed into organic milkshakes and turned into reapers.

Arguably worse are people who actually believe the reapers can be redeemed.

GethPrimeMKII wrote:I get sick to my stomach when they argue that the previous civilizations can still be saved, despite being processed into organic milkshakes and turned into reapers.

Yep. Even if its possible to clone them back into existance, you run into several problems:

1/ Are they even the same species anymore, or just a copy?
2/ How would they react to being brought back after being brutally destroyed?
3/ Would they be forced to Synthesis as well?
4/ Where would they go, considering habitable worlds and resources are already contested over?
5/ How would they interact with other species?

Synthesis supports just handwave it all and declare everything is fine and wonderful and perfect, and how dare you try to take that away from them.

Andromidius wrote:

GethPrimeMKII wrote:I get sick to my stomach when they argue that the previous civilizations can still be saved, despite being processed into organic milkshakes and turned into reapers.

Yep. Even if its possible to clone them back into existance, you run into several problems:

1/ Are they even the same species anymore, or just a copy?
2/ How would they react to being brought back after being brutally destroyed?
3/ Would they be forced to Synthesis as well?
4/ Where would they go, considering habitable worlds and resources are already contested over?
5/ How would they interact with other species?

Synthesis supports just handwave it all and declare everything is fine and wonderful and perfect, and how dare you try to take that away from them.

Yes, we're the tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy nut zealots for asking logical questions about how synthesis works.

How does synthesis even manage to perfectly alter the dna of all life in the galaxy with zero adverse side effects? All it has is human dna to go with. How is Shepard's human dna and essence sufficient enough to alter the dna of turians, quarians, krogan, and hundreds of other species with dna vastly different from humans? The most likely scenario or synthesis, if anythng. would be wide spread grotesque mutations all across the galaxy. But it all ends so perfectly....

Only explaination...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyenRCJ_4Ww

OFFS. This is one person's posts we're talking about here.

One. Person.

Kindly cut crap with "they" generalizations. You of all people should know better.

By the way, on the off-chance that guy is legit, I sent him a PM to watch his tone. He didn't respond to it, so I'm thinking he may just be a troll. In any case, he's not one of us. Even if he does share our views, he clearly does not share our standards.

HYR, well in truth more people actually say most of this. Yes it's one person that we think is funny, but if people begin to agree with this, which there are people, then they start say what this person say.

HYR 2.1 wrote:OFFS. This is one person's posts we're talking about here.

One. Person.

Kindly cut crap with "they" generalizations. You of all people should know better.

By the way, on the off-chance that guy is legit, I sent him a PM to watch his tone. He didn't respond to it, so I'm thinking he may just be a troll. In any case, he's not one of us. Even if he does share our views, he clearly does not share our standards.

Having spend a fair bit of time on BSN lately, I've noticed this. And you're one of last people I'd call a troll (etc).

Yeah people like HYR and Ieldra, even though I greatly disagree with them, are perfectly polite and intelligent about their opinions.

When less people on BSN say stupid shit, I'll stop saying 'they'.

Fair is fair.

GethPrimeMKII wrote:

Yes, we're the tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy nut zealots for asking logical questions about how synthesis works.

How does synthesis even manage to perfectly alter the dna of all life in the galaxy with zero adverse side effects? All it has is human dna to go with. How is Shepard's human dna and essence sufficient enough to alter the dna of turians, quarians, krogan, and hundreds of other species with dna vastly different from humans? The most likely scenario or synthesis, if anythng. would be wide spread grotesque mutations all across the galaxy. But it all ends so perfectly....

I say Synthesis will give everyone cancer...

"Harbinger can't see the Normandy in the EC scene, it has the Reaper IFF in there, so he can trick him"

You know, facts like Harbinger having visual sensors, four at that, the supposed Reaper being 300x times as small as it was supposed to be, it's signal detected a million times if you decide to scan systems, and evacuating somehow their biggest enemy's squad be damned. Harbinger is already depicted as a stupid slave in the endings, let's make him a UNBELIEVABLY stupid, barely functinual slave while where at it.

JamesStone wrote:"Harbinger can't see the Normandy in the EC scene, it has the Reaper IFF in there, so he can trick him"

You know, facts like Harbinger having visual sensors, four at that, the supposed Reaper being 300x times as small as it was supposed to be, it's signal detected a million times if you decide to scan systems, and evacuating somehow their biggest enemy's squad be damned. Harbinger is already depicted as a stupid slave in the endings, let's make him a UNBELIEVABLY stupid, barely functinual slave while where at it.

Why do you think I laugh at the ridiculousness of the scene? Its like its designed to be laughed at.

The Reaper IFF only seems to do the following:

1/ Informs the Omega-4 Relay that its a friendly target, so it transports the ship into the safe zone/doesn't activate the early warning detection system.

2/ Possibly disrupts Reaper long-range sensors into thinking its another Reaper.

What it doesn't do:

1/ Make the Normandy invisible. And neither does the Normandy's stealth drive.

2/ Confuse Reaper short range sensors. As evidenced by the fact Reapers chase the Normandy all over a star system if detected.

3/ Confuse Reaper visual sensors. As evidenced by the fact the Normandy is fired upon multiple times previously.